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Sniper22 · Sep 29, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48

So the only viable paragon build in pve is to use a lame "imbagon" skills with powerful pve-only skills? Ya can you honestly name one build that doesn't use pve-only skills thats still affective.

FlamingMetroid · Sep 29, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

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Originally Posted by Sniper22

So the only viable paragon build in pve is to use a lame "imbagon" skills with powerful pve-only skills? Ya can you honestly name one build that doesn't use pve-only skills thats still affective.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:P/...ing_Strike_PvE
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:P/...cation_Paragon

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 29, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

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Originally Posted by rumensechkov

My suggestion is finding a way to make the Paragon a more playable primary profession. This can be achieved by making it's primary attribute more useful and the skills linked to it more powerful.

Leadership is already insane energy management.

xDusT II · Sep 29, 2008, 03:35 AM // 03:35

What a stupid thread. Is there any point to Sardelac any more? It only gets abused by bad trolls or spammed with dumb suggestions.

Sniper22 · Sep 29, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44

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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:P/...ing_Strike_PvE
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:P/...cation_Paragon

Oh ya, but isn't it funny how the only thing that people really mention is the imbagon? Yes I see pvx has other builds, but people only want imbagons. I'm sure though that there are plenty of areas where paragons could get a buff at least in pve.

Maybe this is a dumb suggestion, but you may be able to overcome the long recharge times of some paragon chants with assassins promise in pve.

Savio · Sep 29, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by Sniper22

Oh ya, but isn't it funny how the only thing that people really mention is the imbagon? Yes I see pvx has other builds, but people only want imbagons.

Why would a group want a build without overpowered PvE skills? It's the same for every profession.

Dr.Jones · Sep 29, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

Paragons don't need to be made more powerful just because they aren't popular, that's a horrible way to balance a game.

And about paragons not having skills that let them farm easily, skills in GW should be made for use in PvP and that's it. If by some chance you can use a certain skill combo to farm things, that's great, but it doesn't mean other classes need farming specific skills.

Paragons are hardly unpopular.

-Lotus- · Sep 29, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

There's nothing wrong with a complex profession. (hi Mesmer).

Bad example is.... really bad

Velvet Wing · Sep 29, 2008, 07:55 AM // 07:55

/not signed...

I main a para, it is horribly unbalanced, and way overpowered..
When I am looking for a party in any HM area, I just post Imba lfg whatever and see invites flying all around the place...

I've done FoW, UW, DOA, Deep, Urgoz, all on my para, pugged... so even when not organized by guildies it is very possible to get into a group..

Other then that, your farming point is valid in one way, it's true they cannot farm anything. BUT there are plenty of viable options to farm with other profs.. make one and move on

More armor or even more buffs would make the para even more unbalanced.

And to quote the wise Alf:
"If you don't see Paragons in PvE it's because they're too bussy doing everything in the game H/H because Paras don't need a human team at all, ever. Kinda hard to fail being one y'know."
This is the most true thing I heard over the last couple of days :P

/not signed once more

Mr Pink57 · Sep 29, 2008, 08:05 AM // 08:05

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Originally Posted by joshuarodger

are you kidding? they're called IMBAGONS for a reason. if i had one in every party i was in, i'd be a happy monk... or a bored one. also i don't see many /P's running around outside of warriors, because they aren't a "great" secondary profession. there are very few "great" secondaries and paragon falls into that "not great" category. it's an extremely useful primary profession in any party if the user knows how to play it properly. i suggest you read over the paragon forum a little more because if you're having trouble playing this prof, you're doing something wrong.

Properly play it? Is this a joke!? Gon is my main profession and has been for quite some time.

Here is your instructions:
1. Cast AR
2. Throw Spear
3. Build Adren
4. Use Shouts When Full
5. Rinse and Repeat

As for other builds. I run a few others mainly [Cruel Spear] and [Empathic Removal] setups.

pink

gameshoes3003 · Sep 29, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46

I think that paragon is good enough.
You might see it as "unpopular" because you see them as often as assassins, ritualist, and dervishes.
Why is that? Because the six core classes are on every game and therefore there are many more of them.
In the end, /notsigned.
I cannot agree with your statements.